I wonder what goes through a mind when caught in the web of deceit and lies it has spun. Confusion? Desperation? Relief? Since I don't do that kind of thing it is difficult for me to understand it. When it is put within the context of islamic doctrine, then it becomes much easier to grasp.
The Muslim Brotherhood, that bastion of democratic secularization sweeping Egypt seems not to care what their spokesmen(or leaders) say anymore, and take no pains to hide their agenda. This article shows just how much they have dropped their facade of moderation and tolerance. The West, however will continue to believe in faeries, unicorns and rainbows, and nothing will change.
From raymondibrahim.com June 17 by Raymond Ibrahim
Muslim Brotherhood Leader Caught Lying—While Swearing to God
Sobhi Saleh, a top Muslim Brotherhood leader who was elected by Egypt's Supreme Council to be on the constitution amendment committee, recently gave a speech wherein he insisted that Brotherhood men should only marry Brotherhood women, since they are "superior" to other Muslim women in Egypt—and so they can "produce little Brotherhood kids." He also likened Egyptian secularists to atheists (that is, infidels) and referred to Egyptians disagreeing with the Brotherhood as qaum lut, the "People of Lot," the Koran's unflattering appellation for sexually depraved societies.
To "clarify" his position, which he received some heat for, Saleh recently appeared on Dream TV, debating Muslim intellectual Khaled Montaser. At one point, because he was unable to refute Montaser, Saleh snidely remarked that he was unaware the show was going to be an "inquisition" and that he wasn't even informed that Montaser would be debating him. The host Mona al-Shazly, protested, adding, "Yes, you did know you would be facing Montaser."
Saleh kept insisting otherwise, including by swearing to God—all with a very sincere look.
The host, visibly stunned, pointed out that she and the whole studio team were present when the coordinator called Saleh and told him who the other guest would be, adding in a very disappointed tone, "I have a great problem that you would swear to God on the air, when I know for a fact that you're lying."
Watching the video, it is clear that Saleh was mortified and speechless, to the point that, to break the awkward silence, the host said, "Okay, we've passed this, let's move on now."
This anecdote is ultimately for the benefit of those Western peoples uninitiated in Islamic lore, who—by projecting their own ethic onto Islam—may find it incongruent for a Muslim who piously seeks to order society around God's laws, do so by taking false oaths in that same God's name.
Yet, the fact is, Saleh's lie accords well with Islam's notorious doctrines of deception that permit Muslims to deceive in order to empower Islam—which is precisely what the Muslim Brotherhood and all Islamist organizations, violent and nonviolent, are all about.
Why Saleh resorted to lying is further telling: his opponent was armed with facts, which always beat sophistry. For example, when Saleh began arguing that a Brotherhood-led government for Egypt would be wonderful for Coptic Christians, Montaser proceeded to read from a number of fatwas issued by the Brotherhood's former grand mufti, Abdullah al-Khatib—fatwas asserting that it is forbidden to build new churches in Egypt, that in certain situations it is obligatory for Muslims to destroy churches—a regular occurrence in Egypt—and that it is forbidden to bury Christians in Muslim cemeteries, "lest they [the Muslims] suffer from the Christian's torments of the grave."
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The Muslim Brotherhood, that bastion of democratic secularization sweeping Egypt seems not to care what their spokesmen(or leaders) say anymore, and take no pains to hide their agenda. This article shows just how much they have dropped their facade of moderation and tolerance. The West, however will continue to believe in faeries, unicorns and rainbows, and nothing will change.
From raymondibrahim.com June 17 by Raymond Ibrahim
Muslim Brotherhood Leader Caught Lying—While Swearing to God
Sobhi Saleh, a top Muslim Brotherhood leader who was elected by Egypt's Supreme Council to be on the constitution amendment committee, recently gave a speech wherein he insisted that Brotherhood men should only marry Brotherhood women, since they are "superior" to other Muslim women in Egypt—and so they can "produce little Brotherhood kids." He also likened Egyptian secularists to atheists (that is, infidels) and referred to Egyptians disagreeing with the Brotherhood as qaum lut, the "People of Lot," the Koran's unflattering appellation for sexually depraved societies.
To "clarify" his position, which he received some heat for, Saleh recently appeared on Dream TV, debating Muslim intellectual Khaled Montaser. At one point, because he was unable to refute Montaser, Saleh snidely remarked that he was unaware the show was going to be an "inquisition" and that he wasn't even informed that Montaser would be debating him. The host Mona al-Shazly, protested, adding, "Yes, you did know you would be facing Montaser."
Saleh kept insisting otherwise, including by swearing to God—all with a very sincere look.
The host, visibly stunned, pointed out that she and the whole studio team were present when the coordinator called Saleh and told him who the other guest would be, adding in a very disappointed tone, "I have a great problem that you would swear to God on the air, when I know for a fact that you're lying."
Watching the video, it is clear that Saleh was mortified and speechless, to the point that, to break the awkward silence, the host said, "Okay, we've passed this, let's move on now."
This anecdote is ultimately for the benefit of those Western peoples uninitiated in Islamic lore, who—by projecting their own ethic onto Islam—may find it incongruent for a Muslim who piously seeks to order society around God's laws, do so by taking false oaths in that same God's name.
Yet, the fact is, Saleh's lie accords well with Islam's notorious doctrines of deception that permit Muslims to deceive in order to empower Islam—which is precisely what the Muslim Brotherhood and all Islamist organizations, violent and nonviolent, are all about.
Why Saleh resorted to lying is further telling: his opponent was armed with facts, which always beat sophistry. For example, when Saleh began arguing that a Brotherhood-led government for Egypt would be wonderful for Coptic Christians, Montaser proceeded to read from a number of fatwas issued by the Brotherhood's former grand mufti, Abdullah al-Khatib—fatwas asserting that it is forbidden to build new churches in Egypt, that in certain situations it is obligatory for Muslims to destroy churches—a regular occurrence in Egypt—and that it is forbidden to bury Christians in Muslim cemeteries, "lest they [the Muslims] suffer from the Christian's torments of the grave."
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